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Pacifists

Postby Canada Joe on Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:42 am

Pacifists

What to do if you happen upon a peace rally by stupid, naive, hemp-shirt-wearing college idiots, to teach them why force is sometimes needed:

1) Approach dumb rich ignorant student talking about "peace" and saying there should be, "no retaliation."

2) Engage in brief conversation, ask if military force is appropriate.

3) When he says "No," ask, "Why not?"

4) Wait until he says something to the effect of, "Because that would just cause more innocent deaths, which would be awful and we should not cause more violence."

5) When he's in mid sentence, punch him in the face as hard as you can.

6) When he gets back up to punch you, point out that it would be a mistake and contrary to his values to strike you, because that would, "be awful and he should not cause more violence."

7) Wait until he agrees that he has pledged not to commit additional violence.

8 ) Punch him in the face again, harder this time.

Repeat steps 5 through 8 until they understand that sometimes it is necessary to punch back. :bash
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Re: Pacifists

Postby April on Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:17 pm

You don't know too much about nonviolent self defense & restraint, do you? :lol:

Just watch out for those new-age pacifists that are into tai chi. It's not just for relaxation & meditation. Also watch out for psychiatric hospital workers that have been trained in nonviolent patient restraint.

You'll go to punch one of them and the next thing you know, you are on the ground, flat on your stomach unable to move, with them sitting on your back, waiting for the police to come haul you away.

Lots of situations where learning nonviolent self defense & restraint can come in handy, such as a drunk friend at your house causing trouble and you just want to show them the door. You wouldn't want to hurt your friend, but at the same time you don't want to put up with their shit, either.

Or let's say you were caring for a mentally ill family member and they became violent and attacked another family member. You don't want to hurt them, but you don't want them hurting anyone else, either.

There are many ways to stop, subdue, and restrain a violent person without using violence, yourself. Hitting back is not the only solution, it never is, nor is it the most effective one.
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