Christians and Children

[Vladd44]

Recently I was involved in a discussion where someone promoted the idea that christians should abort their children.

His rationale was that most christians believe that babies go to heaven, so why not kill them when they are guaranteed to make it to heaven.

This got me thinking, most christians tend to support an idea that their bible makes no mention. It is called "age of accountability". It is a popular concept even though it has no basis in their book of tales.

But since it is such a prevalent belief, perhaps christians should take it to the next level.

So I figured I would make a list of places they should target.

1. Pre-K classrooms.
2. Hospital Nurseries.
3. Elementary School Zones.
4. Children Hospitals.

Even if they managed to get a few that were to old, and would be beyond their "age of accountability" the statistical results would have to be much better than more traditional methods of getting people into heaven.

The really really great thing about it is all they have to do is pray and they will be forgiven as well. So even they can make the heaven cut.

[April]

The problem with that is that not all christians believe that. They want to believe that all dead babies are in heaven, but for some there is this contradiction with the official beliefs of their church that nobody tainted with the stain of original sin can go to heaven...and that stain can only be removed by baptism.

So what happens to unbaptized babies that die? They end up in an eternal state of limbo, somewhere that is neither heaven nor hell nor purgatory. And it is the fault of the parent or other "responsible" christian adult if this happens.

My sister-in-law had a hard time sleeping at night, knowing my daughter was 6 weeks old and wasn't baptized yet. She had this insane fear that something was going to happen to her and she would end up in limbo, and it would be her fault for not doing something about it.

She was on my case almost constantly about getting my daughter baptized, then started pressuring my husband (her brother) about it. When she couldn't do it alone, she began enlisting other family members to help convince us. It got to the point where I actually believed that if I didn't go ahead and play along with this silly baptism game that one of them was going to kidnap my kid and do it themselves.

So at 4 months of age my daughter was baptized in a rather strange catholic ceremony in which her godfather, a non-catholic, wasn't there but was represented by proxy. And this pest of a sister-in-law was made her godmother.

Peace at last, till my daughter was about 5 and my sister-in-law decided it was time for her to start catholic catechism classes, so she can receive holy [strike]cannibalism[/strike] communion. My reply to that was "hey, as her godmother, YOU were the one to promise to ensure that, so take her yourself. As an unbaptized non-catholic, it's not my responsibility."

Then I moved a bit far for her to be traveling all the time which really pissed her lazy ass off. She never did come fetch my daughter and live up to that vow she made as her godmother.

Any way, you can't go around killing unbaptized children and sending them to limbo before the catholic church has had a chance to ruin their lives. It's a one way ticket to hell for you.

And there is no way of knowing who has & hasn't been baptized, unless you baptize them all first, just to make sure.

And with the requirement that every child has to have 2 godparents and a white gown, and then the 2 hour long ceremony needs to be followed with an expensive party paid for by the parents, it's too much trouble.

Besides, what are you supposed to do with all those blessed baptismal candles that are supposed to be saved for when the kids got married and used in their wedding ceremony? That would be one really big ball of blessed wax to dispose of.

[Vladd44]

Yeah no doubt the catholics would not be onboard with this idea.

I also have known a few christians that supported the idea that the babies belonging to believers went to heaven while the others went to hell.

But if we could just convince the ones that believe that their children would go to heaven to go for the "Andrea Yates" agenda it could at least reduce the crazy factor.

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My sister-in-law had a hard time sleeping at night, knowing my daughter was 6 weeks old and wasn't baptized yet. She had this insane fear that something was going to happen to her and she would end up in limbo, and it would be her fault for not doing something about it.

She was on my case almost constantly about getting my daughter baptized, then started pressuring my husband (her brother) about it. When she couldn't do it alone, she began enlisting other family members to help convince us. It got to the point where I actually believed that if I didn't go ahead and play along with this silly baptism game that one of them was going to kidnap my kid and do it themselves.

Sounds to me more like your sister in law has some sort of mental issue, i would have had her assessed and if need be, committed.

So at 4 months of age my daughter was baptized in a rather strange catholic ceremony in which her godfather, a non-catholic, wasn't there but was represented by proxy. And this pest of a sister-in-law was made her godmother.

I'm surprised you gave in April, when i chose to have a civil naming ceremony for my eldest children some eye brows were raised (the few religious family and friends we have), but thats as far as it went. Nobody would have even dared mention baptism or christening to me for fear of me injuring myself from falling over on the floor and rolling around laughing.

I have been asked once to be a godfather, they got a standard answer, funnily nobody else has asked since, they know what the answer will be, and it goes like this. Sure, i will watch over your child, i will do my best to help in the upbringing, be there if they need me, baby sit, and generally help with where i can, but i will NOT, pray, make promises to god, take them to church, be part of any religious ceremony including christenings, weddings etc, read the bible to them or any other christian related activity.

[ahamtatsat]

true story

a professor in arizona was famous for one question finals. his question was "Is hell endothermic or exothermic? Give reasoning."

so the rest goes kind of like this according to one student:

"all souls are going to hell. there are several religions which state categorically that anyone who is not a member of their religion is going to hell. since several religions make this claim, all people are going to hell.

if more souls enter hell that will increase the mass of souls in hell. the question becomes whether hell is expanding faster that the volume of souls entering it, if so, then hell would be endothermic. (cold) if hell is not expanding as fast as the volume of souls entering it then hell will be exothermic.

as a freshman i asked cindy _____ to go to bed with me and as she replied that it would be a cold day in hell before that ever happened i can only conclude that hell is indeed exothermic."

he got the only A in the class.

however it means that the youthful disposal for the purposes of getting them to heaven will be in vain. your heart was in the right place, but can one argue with such logic as this genius student possessed?

science.