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Big "Hello" to All Old School Vladdians...

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Re: Big "Hello" to All Old School Vladdians...

Postby Hitcher on Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:59 pm

what he said (bbp).
while i did eventually reach a point where i figured butch must have been guilty after all (cuz an alibi is an alibi dammit), i sure as hell didnt start out there. and i really had to wonder why so many other people did. are the majority of people really just sitting around looking for someone to hate and a reason to hate them?
as always, bad logic leads to injustice. yeah, maybe it doesnt make any difference at all in the outcome of things that a bunch of people online were ready to assume the guy guilty, but it was still unjust. do we only pay lip service to ideas like "innocent until proven guilty" or do we MEAN it? how many of you have been accused by some random asswad of doing something you didn't do? how would you have felt if most of the people you knew (your "friends" haha) had simply believed that, just because they'd heard it? what would you have thought of those people? and what if you had been charged in court because of it? i'v always figured the standards good enough for our highest courts are good enough for us, and see no reason to condemn people even in our minds when the evidence is weak. and it doesnt get any weaker than "someone said so".
i doubt it matters to butch now. he knows he has few friends here. but it should matter to YOU if you treated him unfairly. if you were one of the people who instantly condemned him and simply used him for the butt of jokes, or if you're one of the people who still does, you owe him an apology. and if you can't recognise that, then you're lacking something as a human being.
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Re: Big "Hello" to All Old School Vladdians...

Postby Hitcher on Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:07 pm

and btw, in bbp's defense: it isn't about "sticking up for your buddy". it's about sticking up for f@cking principles. principles are nothing more than bludgeons of prejudice and oppression if they're not applied consistently. and if you cant recognise THAT you're lacking in either honesty or intellect.
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Re: Big "Hello" to All Old School Vladdians...

Postby ..Ñøßߥ.. on Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:36 pm

Big speach Hitcher, i noticed BBP nor you were honest enough or able to stick up for their "princepals" by answering the simple question i posed.
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Re: Big "Hello" to All Old School Vladdians...

Postby Sable on Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:48 pm

courts are making mistakes every day, they let an f**** pedo out of prison in my country. whole country is mad about it but the judge said that they know he was it but can´t prove it..so he is free and will do it again soon...poor kids. I would shoot them instead of feeding them in a room with tv....
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Re: Big "Hello" to All Old School Vladdians...

Postby Hitcher on Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:15 pm

"this is just my opinion based on the available evidence" means nothing coming from someone whose opinion was formed when the only evidence was "someone said so".
the ironic thing about people who should be ashamed of themselves is that they usually don't have enough sense to be.
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Re: Big "Hello" to All Old School Vladdians...

Postby Sable on Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:01 am

i dunno if BB is guilty or not, but as i said before courts are making mistakes too and let guilty persons out of prison...take a look at O.J.Simpson.
i would put my son far far away from BB..i think all people with kids think like me and you would think the same if you have kids.
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Re: Big "Hello" to All Old School Vladdians...

Postby ..Ñøßߥ.. on Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:05 pm

Hitcher wrote:"this is just my opinion based on the available evidence" means nothing coming from someone whose opinion was formed when the only evidence was "someone said so".


Someone said so, oh you must mean a witness? I always thought witnesses played a large part in a court case? Perhaps you are aware of a change in the law? For your information i reviewed the lengthy pdf of the case in question, and sure, i formed an opinion based on the evidence provided there, witness accounts etc, isnt that what a judge/court does? I simply did the same, and my conclusion is simple, he got off on a technicality. You can moan and winge all you like, my assessment was taken directly from the case and is the basis for the opinion i formed.

How exactly did you form your opinion? Did you review the case? Or did you simply base it on what BB or BBP told u?
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