ÐÊ/¥\ëñTÊÐ/¥\uþþëT wrote:loveistruth wrote:
How about YOU be SPECIFIC on your "I understand" BS?
Whether Christ's works were myth or truth, those claiming to be Christians should make the effort to act like Christ. What fatherless boy did you help today? What hungry person did YOU feed? Did you give shelter to someone in need? Did you comfort the elderly or sick? Or did you just attend church & pat yourself on the back for being so "holy?"
While he condemned sins, he did not condemn sinners. He blessed the harlots and tax collectors. He reached out to them with love, not condemnation. If he didn't condemn them, what gives you the right to criticize ANYONE? God abdicated judgment to you??
He told his followers to be humble like children; to minister (SERVE NOT PREACH AT) others; remove the rafter from their own eye before removing the splinter from their neighbor's eye.
Go back to your Bible and read about the Pharisees. Be honest about how many of these "christian" posts sound like the Pharisees & how many sound like the type of loving council Christ gave to unbelievers.
Do you HONESTLY think you are following Christ's example by belittling the non-Christians on this forum? Or are you being haughty? If you are really interested in saving others, do it with WORKS. Set an example that might make the non-Christians think you are something other than a mindless zealot.
If you don't know how to 'do good works' then your 'religion' is BS & you'd be a better person if you followed Buddhism or Wicca
I have no argument with you. We agree, and the fact that we do has a lot to do with what I understand about you.
Let me tell you, with reluctance, because it is against my nature to hold out myself as anything other than a seeker after truth and not as a person who has found it, a significant part of my life covering about thirty years, has been spent doing the things you advocate, often as a volunteer, frequently as a professional
Taking soup and toasted sandwiches down to a central city park every morning at 4am to feed queues of hungry homeless, working my butt off to run a house for physically disabled adults in order to help them graduate from institutions to being able to look after themselves, as a professional, establishing a state wide programme specifically to cater for intellectually challenged adults where previously none existed, walking around the parks and gardens of a big city at night with coffee, cigarettes, and a bar of chocolate or two from 1am to 4am every morning to see if I met anybody who needed a bit of a lift along or referral to some agency that may be able to help.
I am getting a bit creaky in the joints now, but I still walk around as much as I can, for the exercise mainly, but keeping an eye out for needs such as helping a weaker person carry a suitcase up station stairs, or sitting on a wall to encourage another also sitting there who looks as if they are not coping. And always with some loose $10 notes in my pocket ready to slip into a pocket of a person who comes across as if they could do with a lift.
Is that specific enough?
But that doesn't prove my Christian credentials, nor should it. Plenty of people care who are not Christians, but it answers your question, I hope.
And, of course, you might think that anybody could say that. Sure. But my record could be proved quite easily from many sources, should that ever be necessary, but I hardly think that should be so in conversation between two guys who believe that caring for others within a concept of God is what matters in life.
Between those who know there is a camaraderie that also knows when truth speaks.
: Maybe we should send you to a concentration camp.
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